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Post by xcaldazar on Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:15 am

I got in an argument over grammar today. Now it is driving me crazy which is right. This is over where you should properly use 'I' and 'me' in a sentence.
The sentence in question is:
She also told a very close friend of mine and I that she had played jump rope.
She also told a very close friend of mine and me that she had played jump rope.

I changed the second half for privacy reasons, but it was a verb and past tense before.

Here are the sites I found about this:
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/meandi?view=uk
http://hubpages.com/hub/Grammar_Mishaps__I_versus_Me

Unless the websites I found were incorrect I believe the second sentence with 'and me' would be correct.
The trick I was taught is to take out the other person and figure out whether I or me sounds correct. "She also told I that she had played jump rope." just does not sound right to me. I was arguing with two people and they said you can never have 'and me' in a proper sentence.

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Re: GRAMMAR!!!

Post by Miriya on Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:59 am

Don't be sad that you cannot properly write English Tay <3
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Post by ChazTheDude on Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:29 pm

I honestly dont know.

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Post by CanadianEH on Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:46 pm

Honestly who really cares, if it was in maple you tell that person its a 10+ game so live with it. If this is in real life then you tell that person to find a better hobby then wasting time finding bad things in your grammar.
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Post by Danny on Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:07 pm

Sometimes the grammar gets to me too, but I really don't mind because my grammar sucks. Also, i would say, "She also told me that she have played jump rope."

But I wouldn't seem to expect I am right because usually you would say I if you are the first subject. "I was informed when she told me that she have played jump rope." Plus "She also told I" so odd saying that.

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Post by nightclawz on Fri Apr 23, 2010 6:40 pm

Isn't "of mine and I" better said as "of ours"?
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Post by Katie on Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:35 pm

Oiy. Grammar. We just had a HUUUUUGE debate in Bus Comm the other day about putting commas in sentences. For example when saying "Red, white and blue" do you put a comma after the white or not?

Spent 30 minutes of my 45 minute class learning that. Who cares?!!? I'm in Nursing school. No one gives 2 shits.
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Post by WeeSeng on Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:04 am

=-= Apparently the public gives 2 shits. :]
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Post by syncmann on Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:06 am

Lol @ grammar.
I would say the second sentence is correct between the two up there.
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Re: GRAMMAR!!!

Post by Steve on Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:54 pm

Well as the official Grammar Nazi, I do have an answer, and you are, in fact, correct. The word should be Me, and here is why:

The rule for I and me is:
If the first article were taken out of the sentence, would the sentence make sense still?
So in your case, the sentence is:
She also told a very close friend of mine and __ that she had played jump rope.

So we remove the first article from the sentence and it becomes:
She told __ that she had played jump rope.
Quite obviously, the word is, in fact, "Me". "I" sounds better in most instances, however, it is technically incorrect often.

Isn't grammar fun? (yeah, I am 17 =P)

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Post by nightclawz on Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:31 pm

Damn IB kids, haha
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Re: GRAMMAR!!!

Post by Steve on Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:39 pm

*high five Kev!*

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Post by xcaldazar on Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:57 pm

CanadianEH wrote:Honestly who really cares, if it was in maple you tell that person its a 10+ game so live with it. If this is in real life then you tell that person to find a better hobby then wasting time finding bad things in your grammar.

It does matter when it is a letter for a court case, and how well the information is presented could determine if someone spends 25 or more years in prison. Ya it matters.


Thanks for the grammar naziness Steve. Same answer I got from multiple people on bellocan.com Smile

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Post by AIwaysBowman on Sat May 08, 2010 4:01 pm

Katie wrote:Oiy. Grammar. We just had a HUUUUUGE debate in Bus Comm the other day about putting commas in sentences. For example when saying "Red, white and blue" do you put a comma after the white or not?

Spent 30 minutes of my 45 minute class learning that. Who cares?!!? I'm in Nursing school. No one gives 2 shits.

Why red, white and blue? They're the colors of our Dutch flag.
OT, I don't know about English, but in dutch we never put a comma before the word "and".
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Post by nightclawz on Sun May 09, 2010 12:03 am

In English, commas are put before the "and", so it would be red, white, and blue.
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Post by Steve on Sun May 09, 2010 10:13 am

Yup. I had a big debate with someone about this the other day. You have to put a comma before the and so that it doesnt read as if the last 2 options were really one. such as:

red and white, purple, and blue

blue, purple, red and white

Even though the second one i was referring to them all separately, they still read as one option.

and btw, here kevin:
http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1935115

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Post by AIwaysBowman on Sun May 09, 2010 4:09 pm

I lol'd at the video
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Post by Steve on Sun May 09, 2010 11:59 pm

I did too. my cousin sent it to me cause he knows im a grammar freak xP

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